这人有。个小朋友了。哦，那没有。没。I know. 感这个。我开始吧。Hello. Hi everybody. I'm Haley. I'm covering your lesson today, so it's nice to see you all. So we have Emma Chu and Valerie. Is that right? I said all of your names correctly. Oh good. Well, lovely to meet you. Is it usually just the three of you in this class? No galleries are more normally. No these people didn't use to be in this class. They another guy in this Oh, okay, so it's changed a bit today then and then I'm new as well. I'm just doing it for today. So I believe you've been practicing some of your debating skills already because as we can see we're on lesson nine so you must be getting very good at debating by now if you've been doing this course already. So, Valerie, have you been here since the beginning? Yeah, and then shoe are you new? Yeah and what about you Emory? You new today? Are. You new today to this class. Oh, and nice to see you. And hi, Alex, also saying I'm Haley uncovering the lesson today. Are you new to this class? Have you been to this class before? Alex? Yes, you have. Excellent. So you and Valerie have had some practice, and everyone else is new today, including me. So we'll get started and we'll have a look at how we can really perfect our debating skills, really thinking carefully about a topic and arguing what we think respectfully with others. Are you okay, Alex? What is today's topic? So today's topic, good question. Here it is. What does it say, Alex? Negative. Speaker, so negative cases, it's okay. Well, you sound good and you'll get even better, won't you? So today's learning is about negative cases showing we are against the motion. So it says here we will learn about how to develop a negative case, including how to choose a right position with supportive arguments. We can't just say we are against something. We need to be able to show very clearly why with evidence. So Alex, were you here when you learabout affirmative cases? Yeah. Affirmative is when you agree on something and negative is you you disagree. Oh, well done, Alex. Very good, Tracy, for you. That was very nicely explained. So last time we looked at agreeing today we are focusing on disagreeing. So let's imagine. So this was what Alex said. Actually, let's not imagine yet. So firmative team, you're saying you should. So in a should debate, the affirnative team is trying to prove that there is a problem that needs to be solved and that their plan is the problem. So they are really trying to persuade us that we should do something. And then like Alex said, the negative team disagree. So a good word for disagree is to refute one or both of these claims. It means you are arguing against, you are disagreeing with, and prove the harms of the affirmative teams model. So to do this, the negative team needs to consider two things. This is what we're learning today. We're going to be thinking about what is our position and what points. So arguments can we make to show our position? So let's look at that in more detail. So position is step one when you are the negative team. So let's hear from a few other people today. And merdo, you think you could read this for us? Don't worry, if you're not ready yet, we can always come back to you. Do you think you could read this text for us? Yeah, lovely. That would be great, amigo. And then say the negative teams. The negative theis position. Is there? Response. Okay, lovely. Stop there. Emman, very good. Great. So make sure you speak nice and loudly and clearly. But you did really well. They good try there, ema, very good trophy for you. So it's showing the answer, their response. How are they going to answer the affirmative? Teams problem and plan and they're going to show where they are. Our position is where we are. What do we think? Where are we in our thoughts? So shoe, do you think you could try and read the next part? It so it outlines what the negative stands for. No, nicely read, very confident, very good. So our argument tells us what we tells us more about the negative. So there are three possible positions. So Valerie, tell us what they are or I've just muted you. You unmute yourself then. So that is. Are you able to unmute Valerie? There is no problem. Okay, keep going. Won't fix the problem. Good. And then finally. The plan will make things worse. So when we are the on the negative team, very good, Valerie. We are saying one of those three positions. This is where we are. We don't think there's a problem or we don't think your plan will fix the problem or your plan will actually make things worse. So roand, Valerie, nicely read as well. Oh, this person here in the debate says you could have more than one position, but that's harder to argue. So really you need to have a nice strong argument. So I would recommend really any choosing one to go with at the moment so that you can really strongly defend it. If you defend it, what does that mean if you defend your position? Unmute if you think you know or put your hand up. Okay. So defending yourself means you protect yourself. You stop things coming at you. You need to stop the other team from finding a problem with your argument. You must be able to show that your position is very strong. You can convince us that you're right and defend yourself. So we had step one position. Step two, you now make your points. Remember, points are is each individual reason or each individual argument. So let's hear somebody read this again soon. You're not always listening to me. Who would like to read this advice, this information? Oh, you'll soon become keen readers, Alex, why don't you have again? I'm not sure we've heard much reading from you yet. So two. To come up with points. Or arguments. Alex, was it you that said you were you were struggling with reading at the moment, Yewe? It again to come up with points or arguments that support position that you Hale taken. Wow, what's that Alex? Good try. The next step support one of support one or more the points of the positions of the positions. Very good, Alex. So I know you weren't feeling very confident about reading, but you read really nicely. Well done, Alex. Very clear. So yes, we're showing now why we are taking that position. How can we argue that our position is correct? So these are some negative cases in action. Our example debate is that school exams should be banned or what does band Ned mean? Valerie. That means people should, that means in school, that that means it cannot exist anymore in death. Byeah, well, well done, Valerie. Nicely explained. They should no longer exist. They should no longer be allowed. They should no longer be carried out. So they should be stopped. School exams should be stopped. Does everybody take exams at the moment? At school? Do you do tests and exams? Yeah. Alex and Valeria nodding. You don't do tests and exams. That's interesting. So has your school banned them or do you do them later? Okay, when you're a bit older, okay, how about you, Emma? Do you do exams and tests at school? You do. Okay? Well, imagine if exams and tests were banned. They were stopped altogether forever. Put your hand up. If you think that is a good idea, you can put your virtual hand up. Can you find your virtual hand? Like this. Have I put mine up or no? I've just changed the settings. Okay, put your hand up. Let's see if your virtual hand is working. Put your hand if you think you are against this motion. School exams should not be banned. You think they should not be banned? Oh well, Daniel, virtual hands are working. And what do you think, Emma? Do you know where where your hand up tool is? Do you think that they should be banned or should not be banned? Oh, you found it. Well done, Emma. Let me unmute you. It should be banned. They should be banned. Oh, interesting. So you think they should be banned, but everybody else thinks they should not be banned? How interesting. We've already got two sides. Before I show you any reasons, let's have a go at saying our own. So Emma, why do you think they should be banned? You are the affirmative here. So exams should be banned because. Excuse me, everybody. So exams should be banned because. Can you think of your reason, your point to support that? Do you think they are stressful for students? Yeah stressful when you're panicking who say you could say because they are too stressful well, than too many assays stressful for students. Read that then Emma. That's your reason. It should exams it be bad because they are too full and for students. Yeah, well done. Good. So now let's hear very good, Emma that good thinking through that and you're getting more confident now you're speaking. Keep it going. Who said then? So I think the other the three of you now said they should not be banned. Valerie, why should exams not be banned? You're going to take the negative the negative position. It is because that they have they have to they have to prepare for the future. If you if you don't have exams, you might not know how to do your homework and you might not understand the topic that the teacher taught. Truvalerie nice argument. So you think they actually help you with your understanding? Okay, good. That was a good argument to be, to have made. Well done. Gone, Alex. Tell us your argument. I think examam shouldn't be banned upon. First we examine it. Just a test to see if you know it or not. Sometimes if you don't know it, anyone know? You don't know it when no one will teach you how to do it. And when you don't know how to do it, it help you work and it can also help you in the future. Very good. Alex. Yeah, well done. When you say it can help you, that would just be one exam. So because say they could help they can help you because it exams they can help you. I think that's a very good point, Alex. Exactly. If if we if the teacher doesn't know or you don't know what you still are struggling with then you might not be helped in the right way. That was a very good argument. Alex. You why do you think they should not be banned? You could agree with Valerie or Alex, or maybe you have a different idea. I agree with Alex. Oh, you agree with Alex. Okay, so you both thinking the same thing. Brilliant. So that was great to hear your own examples before we look at what's on here. So as a negative team, what position could you stand in? So taking your negatives, you're saying I think out of your position, so there is no problem. The plan won't fix the problem or the plan will make things worse. So thinking of your argument, Alex, what is your position? Is it that you're saying there's no problem, the plan won't fix the problem or the plan will make things worse? The plan will make things worse, okay, because then learning will be less effective. I see. Okay, Valerie, what was your position? Now I'm just trying to think back to your reason for why they should not be banned. What was your reason for why they should not be banned? So are so are they can understand the topics even more? Yes, that's so you think that and do you think there's no problem? The problem won't sorry, the plan won't fix the problem or the plan will make things worse. The the the plan will make things worse. Yeah, good. So your position than everybody is the plan will make things worse. If we ban exams, then maybe the students that's learning will not be as good. So that plan is going to make learning worse, not better. It's going to disadvantage students, not advantage ge them. So that was just an example so that you could have a think. But today you're going to practice it with this topic. Children should get paid for doing housework. Did you see this motion for your homework? Has anybody prepared this already? No, okay, but that's fine. Let's prepare for it now. So let's cy, then we'll check. We know what this motion really means. So what does it mean to get paid? Valerie. That means someone will pay you some money or something, right? Okay, so to be given money or you earn money for doing housework, so what is housework? As you. And Charles, chores, chores, chores well, don't you? So can you give an example of some chores that children might be asked to do at home? Washing dishes? Oh, well done. Washing the dishes. Okay. So do you have to wash the dishes at home? Now, do you have to do any chores at home? Oh, lucky you then you, Alex, give us another example. Maybe you need to swebefore or tidy up, but I think that's since it's your own mess, it's a mess, then you should head yet to my own. I like your thinking that, Alex. I agree. We should be tidying up our own mess, shouldn't we? So you might need to tidy your bedroom, make the bed, maybe. What else could we do? Hoover or vacuum? Let's say vacuuming? Yes, Alex, I think sleeping. Do you say sleeping? Sweeping? Oh, sweeping? Yes, yes, sweeping. I don't think vacuuming, it's actually too used. That doesn't look right to me either. Sweeping the floor. What's the other one? Alex, sorry. Yes, gusting. Oh, well done. It sounds like you do lots of chores. Alex, do you know these words? Because you do them. Actually I didn't do your chores and I just turned up by me. And also, it's just many words for the same thing. And Yeah, really, it's it's those are more specific jobs, aren't they? But we could just say, we we clean and tidy. And I like the sound of you cleaning and tidy in your own room, Alex, because actually, if it's your own mess, I believe we should tidy it ourselves. So Emma, do you ever have to do any housework, any chores? Oh, let me unmute you. Sorry. Sometime I, sometime I had the time, so I was doing the housework. Oh, well done, emmirthat. Sounds good, helping around the house. And how about you, Valerie? Do you ever have to do housework? Sometimes sometimes okay. So we sometimes do some hazard. Does anybody already get paid, get given money for doing housework? I did think I was ever given money for doing housework. Okay, so this is an interesting topic. Then the motion is children should get paid for doing housework. But remember today we are practicing our negative arguments, so we are going to be against the motion. Maybe let's let's yes, let's have a bit more discussion first. So let's discuss some of these questions. I know we've already talked about some of the some things to do with housework. Alex, did you want to add something. Don't forget, you're muted. Alex, if you're talking to us, you're muted. What were you going to say? Alex? I'm just going to say red, when you are doing hanwith your message wihelping your parents t and if you are cleanyour room, you are miswith just cleanup. Your a mess. Yeah. Are you helping your parents? You're right on other people in the house. So does that feel good to know that you're helping your parents? Alex, yes and Yeah, no. Good. Pick your hand up if you're like Alex and you like helping at home. No, who doesn't? So does that mean you do not like helping at home? Wow, interesting. Okay. So we've already named some types of housework. Alex, did you want to add something else? Yes, I'm just going to say I didn't say always. Sometimes. Sometimes I say you sometimes enjoy it, not always. So there are times where you think, Oh, I'm too tired. I have those as well. So what is this child doing? Who who knows the words for what this child d's doing? We've we've said it already. Let's match it now to the picture. I think, Alex, you said this one already, didn't you, or was it you? It's washing dishes, washing dishes good. Or sometimes we say, washing up, doing the washing up, washing the dishes, doing the washing up. What is this child down here doing? He's shopping, shopping yehelping with the shopping, helping with the grocery shopping, helping with the food shopping. So there are lots of different chores, lots of different housework that children might be asked to do. You've all said you've never been paid to do housework. Have you ever been paid to do something, anything? Alex. I the unmute you. Sorry, Alex, I've muted you now, girl. It isn't quite technically we're doing something. It's just I can sell a bothat have no use and you can make something and you can sell it and earn money. It's out. Look, doing something. Yeah. That's because you're selling your things. Yeah. So you're earning by selling. Yeah. Have you done that then before, Alex? Just one time in the summer. And what was it what did you sell? Bottles, bottles and candies. Sorry, seagain Candy. Oh, really? Oh, okay, interesting. So what did you what did you do with the money that you got? I forgot I mostly bought some food. Some nice food for yourself. Yes, Yeah. Well, that must have felt good to have known youearn that money by selling something. So it was nice to hear a bit more about your thoughts. So in a moment, I'm going to put you into breakout rooms. I need to remember how to put you into breakout rooms. So I'll have a look. And second, and you're going to be so I know you've been talking about the negative, but we are going to split off now and have one affirmative team and one negative team. It says here, tips, discuss about your team's ideas to try to develop your argument with evidence and examples. Think about the opposite opinions and how to now this says debut, but I think it's a typo. I think that should say rebutt. So have you heard the word rebutked yet in your classes? Rebutt is arguing back. If so, if somebody says, I think it's a good idea, you can rebutt them and say, I don't think it is a good idea because I think what you're saying is incorrect because it's respectfully arguing back. Go on, Alex. Isn't it rebutto not rebutt. So to rebutt is the verb. Good question, Alex. Well done. To rebutt is the verb. So the rebuttal is the now ouma is the actual argument rather than the action. Do you see the difference, Alex? So in that sentence, you could say, think about the opposite opinions and what your rebuttal will be. That's the thing itself, the argument itself. So let me just double check again how to find breakout rooms. Because I always forget, because I don't do it very often. And then when it comes to it, I forget. But let me see it is, yes, it's in the toolbox. Have you been in breakout rooms before in this class? We'll give it a try. If not, we can just talk about it together in here. But it will put you into two separate groups so that you we're not listening to each other's ideas. You'll be able to talk together about what you're going to argue in the debate. So I'm going to put Alex and Emma together. You are going to be on the affirmative team. Yes. You do think children should be paid for doing housework? Okay, Valerie and zu, you're going to be on the negative team. No, children should not be paid for doing housework. Go on, Alex. I didn't say children should be paid for doing health work. I think children shouldn't. Yeah, exactly. However, in our classes, you need to be ready to try either side, either position, either position, even if it's not truly what you believe. You're practicing both ways. Okay. So do you think you could do that, Alex? Give it a go. Okay. I know it's hard when you actually really believe the other side, but it's it's a really good skill because it means you can actually take on other people's points of view and think, what would other people think? That's a very good skill to have because some people struggle with that. So when we go into breakout rooms, I'm going to give you how long have we got left? I'm going to give you six minutes. And then when we come back, you're going to debate this question together. Now I will be coming into each breakout roif. I'm not in there with you. Just Carry on discussing. And then if you have any questions, I should be into your room soon. So does anybody have any questions before I set the breakout rooms? So remember to make notes. So Alex and Emma, you're writing notes together about why children should be paid to do housework. Valerie and shoyou're, writing notes for why children should not be paid to do housework. So let's go into two. And let's just sort that out. So Valerie and shou. Emma and Alex lovely. Okay, so let's get started. 那你那你关联型号了吗？我不是我没有什么支付关键原因，因为我总要想在那个地方面，所以我在风品没有资格太多。你不应该帮忙作做家务，我认为做家务不应该惹他配，反正是你自己家的自己家做自己的事情。对点，那你那我不如果不配的话，你愿愿意做，我真的那那有那如果那问题是就是说做家务是不是占用你学习的时间跟上的时间，你做久了做一次。Okay, you two talking with one another, remember you're on the same team. So you could say, I think, that we should argue that children should tidy their own things. Anyway, what's one of your arguments? You. Because it is the duty to do housework to keep the clean, to keep the house clean. Okay? So children should be expected to keep the house clean. And Valerie, you can then respond to, you could say, if that's a good idea, maybe we should also say that. So what are you thinking, Valerie? Well, that's a great idea idea. But I think we could say that, Wendy, we could also say, because you can make more than one. Sorry, Carol, they when they get paid, they and they figure out that they get money, they might just do the housework. They won't really clean the house well enough. And then I do the, and then, and then theybe we again, keep on doing it, but they're not doing the the house house work well. Oh, well done. So they might they might be very sneaky, I suppose if they're doing it, they're not doing it well, so they get paid to do more. Oh, that was good thinking, valallory. Wow. So keep this conversation going for another couple of minutes while I go to the other breakout room. Now, so together you've got your arguments written down because you're going to be arguing together, okay. Or if you do do it separately, at least you've come up with ideas together. So let me go to the other group now. Hello, okay, how's it going in here? Have you been listing your reasons? Yes, but why do I have a crown? Why do I have? I don't know. Yeah, you're taking it off while you had control. You had the power there, Alex. It was a mistake, actually. But anyway, at least you've had a chance to look through the slides. Have you two talked about me? Yeah, I did. I did, but by mistake. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Alex, have you written down some ideas? No, I just talked about some ideas with my mom, with your mom. Okay. So tell tell me and Emma one of your arguments. I just say them when I'm using them. And now I just want to hear some of your preparation. So just tell us one, because you need to be working with Emma as well, giving Emma some ideas. Alright? It's birseason people when you get paid, when you want to do it, because you have money. In second reason, because if you get money, you know it's hard to get money. So you won't eat work of money. And third and third reason is because when you have many of them, you don't give back ck your mom for more money to buy things. And you have your own n money to do. And you know what to do with it. Oh, well done, Alex. I'm going to give you some vocabulary there. That was very, there were very good reasons though, Alex. Very good. When you were saying it will make children want to do the housework, a good word you could use there as incentive. It will give children more incentive to do housework. And incentive means you have a reason why you want to do it, and the incentive is to get the money. Yes, alx. It's also. Children will also not use money, so they won't spend it on first things, but they just think we want it will have hair for me work when you get money, much of much money for yourself. So you could say it will teach children the value of money and it will also teach children how to work. So they won't work silly. Oh, well done, Alex. Yeah, very good. So they won't work silly. Do you mean so they won't? So they will aim high. They will aim to get good jobs and and we will also know how hard jobs are. Very good. Well, Yeah everything shops are, eat, need to run. And you did it. You don't know how to do it. Very good. Alex, these are fantastic reasons, particularly as you weren't sure about being on the affirmative team. Emma, do you agree with Alex? So do you have anything else we could say? Go and then tell us. The children should should get paid for Alex. Just listen to ever first. The children should the children should pay pay for doing housework because the the children, it was hard to do the of work and get money from from our parents. And we can we can buy something we want and and we can keep something you want. Okay, well done. Emyou could say they deserve to be paid. If they are going to work hard, they deserve it. They should get money because they have worked hard enough. They deserve it. Now I'm going to stop you both there because we're going to go back to the main room, otherwise we won't have time to actually have the debate together. But both of you can have another trophy because you've come up with some really strong points there. Well done. So I'm going to close the groups and then we'll come back all together. Brilliant. Well well done everybody. I popped into both breakout rooms and heard some fantastic arguments being made. So that was brilliant. I'm going to just stop all of that. Okay, so now we have some time to have our debate. So I think how let me just think about the best way of doing this. I think what I'm going to do is give you three minutes each each pair. So we're going to have Emma talking with you and doing and holding a debate. So one of you is affirmative, one of you is negative. And then we'll have another debate with Alex and Valerie debating. So we'll hear the same debate, but from two different groups. So maybe actually Alex and Valerie can go first. So over on the affirmative side, we have Alex. He thinks children should be paid for doing housework. Okay, over on the negative team, we have Valerie she believes children should not be paid for doing housework. I got that the right way round. Yes I have. Okay, so you are gonna to have in fact I'm gonna to make you four minutes on the clock to have your debate together. So we will start with the affirmative team. So it's not four minutes each, it's four minutes for the whole debate together. Now jand Emma you have an important job because for one you're listening out for ideas that you could use as well. But secondly, I'm going to be asking you to tell Alex and Valerie your opinion. What did they do well with their debate? What could they do better? So let's get started. So over to the affirmative team with Alex. I think she just get paid for doing housework, because when children get paid, we have a reason to do health work, and we do it. And secondly, children would know how hard meaning is to get, so we won't spend money on things that we don't need. And certainly it can help them to prepare for work in the future. And it will also write them. Pick a better job to work harder for a better future in sion. I think children should get paid for doing health work. Hey, ready to rebutt him, Valerie? So unmute Valerie. Well, I think children should not be paid because when they get paid, they might do they figure out that they will get paid. They might do the housework badly, they will be greedy, and they will think that they will be awarded for every task. But in the real world, when they become adults, they won't get paid for doing their housework. In conclusion, I think a children should not get paid for doing housework. Again, you made some very good points. Wow, well done. So don't worry about the timer as long as you didn't go over four minutes. That was what was important. That was fantastic. Both of you. I like how you structured your arguments as well and your position was very clear. So you, what did you think of their arguments, their debate? Whether you could say they both stated their points clearly or they made good arguments. And what did you think? Did they do well? Yeah I thought they did very well. I love how you said your argument, you listed art, your points, and then you made a conclusion. Very good, both of you. And something I would say, Valerie, is just acknowledge what Alex has said. So you could say something like you made some interesting points, Alex. However, I strongly believe that children should not get paid for doing housework. Or you could really state your position. However, this plan will not work because and I like how you talked about the real world. Very good. So let's swap over shou and Emma, you're going to have a go. So shoe, you were on the negative team. Emma, you are the affirmative team. Okay, so you could use the last debate as an idea as well. I don't think we needed four minutes after all. So I'll give you three. Off we go. I think the children should pay pay for. She paper housework because. Because the children are doing hard work and and. They deserve. And they deserve. And they deserve. And they can learn how how to. Pay for the shopping and and keeping the money safe and you how will you respond? I think that they should not be to do their housework because they should keep the house clean by their own and they should not look for anything. It is the duty to keep the house clean. Yes. So you saying your the plan will not work? The plan is not needed even. Sorry is you Carry on. I don't have anything. Was that the the end of yours? Okay. So you could say, in conclusion, children do not need to be paid for doing housework. In conclusion, children did should not get paid for doing houseyeah. You're saying the plan is not needed. Well, well done both of you. Again, you made some strong arguments. You structured it well. You said what your position is, and then you you added some evidence, you added some points and they were very well thought out. I think everybody has debated brilliant me today. So these were some of the points you could have made for why you agree. I think you did. Actually, you definitely said these, Alex. All three of these. We we touched on this. If children get paid for everything, they might become a selfish person. I'd just that theythink they deserve a reward for everything they do. Oh, yes, Valerie said this. They might try and get out of housework by giving up Oh, by giving up the money. Oh, I thought it was going to say they might try and get more money by by not doing the house work quite so well. Anyway, next week's motion is this. So you're going to do some research and think about the argument ments. You can make some notes. So in the current technological generation, so you in particular, in living in, have grown up in a world with technology. My generation didn't grow up with it. It came in as I was a teenager. Anyway, in the current technological generation, school should use e textbooks rather than paper books. So books on the screen, books on the computer. You're saying you're thinking of points for and against, ready for next week. But well done everyone. Onically be one final trophy. And that means that we've ended the lesson with Valerie on four trophies, Alex on six trophies, two on two trophies. We should have had more than that. You, I'm definitely gonna give you another one for your debate, three trophies and Emma with four trophies. So well done Alex. You had the most trophies today. Fantastic. But you all worked really well and I really enjoyed working with all of you. So well done. Hopefully ksee you again another time. Well done everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye, well done, bye.